How do you continue to grow?
“I gather people around me with whom I can have courageous conversations. These are alert, wise individuals I’ve met along the way – whether it’s a former boss with whom I can spar as equals or a consultant I’ve connected with. I run things by them and ask for feedback. It can’t be critical enough. If you are not defensive, you learn a lot. That is a huge gift to your career.”
“I’m getting closer to my authentic self. The more you are yourself when sitting at the table with others, the better they work with you. People sense when you’re comfortable in your own skin. Everything is on the table – honest and open. When you know yourself well, you understand others better and sharpen your ability to observe and guide. In my role, that’s very important.”
What makes a good day?
“A good day combines doing something with others and being able to delve into something, especially if it’s a bit complex. I love exploring ideas more deeply and daring to show my true colours more clearly. I think that makes you more successful in the long run. I enjoy doing things well and approaching them smartly. Then, I add an extra layer of energy to motivate everyone and make them part of the journey. I believe I’m more valuable when working with others. One plus one absolutely equals three.”
“I shape life according to my will. This is a company where I can make a difference both socially and internally. I love everything I do and then leadership feels like a hobby. Developing a vision in this environment is energising and makes it enjoyable to pursue together. I also think about the small things that make a difference – like avoiding unnecessary traffic or ensuring I always stay connected with my team. And I don’t believe in rigid routines; if you want to stop early on a Wednesday to go for a run, go for it. If you pick up some work afterwards, it will probably go four times better.
What other small rituals recharge you?
“A conversation like this because I enjoy listening to people. I believe that everyone has something to offer, and I am happy to take that in. I really enjoy having a nice coffee or, in the evenings, doing absolutely nothing on the couch with my daughters. Running through the Vondelpark with good music on. Exercising with my girlfriend, enjoying good food, and talking endlessly. And then dancing at a festival with my girlfriend until four in the morning, where the music connects you but everyone can still do their own thing. I find that wonderful.”
Are there any books or podcasts that you would recommend?
“Personally, I love variety. I always read two books and follow two or three podcasts. Currently, I am reading Attached, which explores the science of attachment in adulthood. It includes various tests to help you understand your own style. Another book I’m reading is Awake, recommended by a friend, which I find intriguing. As for podcasts, I enjoy listening to investment advice, as it gives me more perspective on the world. I also follow “Boekestijn en De Wijk”, especially because, after living in Moscow for four and a half years, I closely follow the war in Ukraine – a truly grim misery. I never miss Derk Sauer’s column in Het Parool. And I read a lot of newspapers in the evenings and at weekends. Above all, I love everything that helps me keep growing and thinking more deeply. That is what I wish for every reader as well.”